Sam and the Unicorn

In reply to: https://abitoforange.com/2018/01/01/the-evidence-for-atheism-is-ignorance/

‘Because, unless you’ve seen every fossil in every museum or still encased in rock, then you can’t possibly claim that unicorns did not exist with anything but arrogance to back you up. Maybe YOU haven’t seen the evidence, but that doesn’t mean it’s not out there.’
Doesn’t that mean that you have to believe they existed or at least consider it until you have looked at every inch of earth possible without finding one? That just sounds exhausting!

 

Hello Sam,
Yes, admittedly, digging up every square inch of rock on earth would be exhausting. That’s why, despite all of my big talk, I secretly expect I shall never get around to doing it. But what it actually means is, one cannot declare definitively that something DOES NOT EXIST unless there is some LOGICAL reason. For instance, you CANNOT declare with 100% certainty that there are no dinosaurs living on earth right now. But I can claim with absolute certainty that there are no polygamous bachelors. Thanks for your comment! Continue reading

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Taking a Closer Look at Nature

There was once a group of philosophers having dinner together, one of which was a Christian. The others asked him, “If someone were to ask you for proof that God exists, what would you say?”

He considered it for a moment, and then said, “I would take him into my garden, and I should show him the flowers, and trees, and insects, and the fish in my pond.” And then he went back to eating.

“That’s it?” his friends asked. “That’s all you would say? What if he looked around at your garden and said he still did not believe that there was a God?”

“I would tell him,” he replied, “to look closer.”

So get on your boots and grab some bug repellent, because today we’re venturing out into NATURE to take a look around! If you see a bear, STAY IN THE CAR. Continue reading

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Taking a Closer Look at Nature

There was once a group of philosophers having dinner together, one of which was a Christian. The others asked him, “If someone were to ask you for proof that God exists, what would you say?”

He considered it for a moment, and then said, “I would take him into my garden, and I should show him the flowers, and trees, and insects, and the fish in my pond.” And then he went back to eating.

“That’s it?” his friends asked. “That’s all you would say? What if he looked around at your garden and said he still did not believe that there was a God?”

“I would tell him,” he replied, “to look closer.”


So get on your boots and grab some bug repellent, because today we’re venturing out into NATURE to take a look around! If you see a bear, STAY IN THE CAR. Continue reading

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This paper clip is a real jerk

What’s up my fellow atheists? Thank the improbable eventualities it’s Friday, huh?

Let me tell you something I was thinking about between my all CAPS LOCK flame attacks on those stupid Christians. I went into the kitchen to get a drink, and I saw something which has made me mad for a LONG time, and I finally figured out why.

If you walk into my kitchen you will see a brave and honest magnet sticking to the refrigerator. It doesn’t need to be told. It asks nothing in return. It just sticks to the refrigerator day and night,  doing what is right.

But then there’s this paper clip. This little jerk REFUSES to stick to the refrigerator no matter what I do or say. I don’t know if it is selfish or insane but it will NOT stick to the refrigerator! Continue reading

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I Think, Therefore I Scribble (Or: Cogito, Ergo Ducky)

I think, therefore I am. How about you? Do you think? If not, what makes you think you exist? Oh, I guess if you thought you existed, that would be you thinking.

It was a silly question anyway.

I guess what I’m getting at is the fact that you’ve probably heard this phrase before: “I think, Therefore I am” (Or, in the original French, “Cogito, Ergo Sum,” and in Pig Latin “Iway inkthay, ereforethay Iway amway.”). But have you ever wondered where it came from? Good thing you have a Friend like yours truly to clear up the vast mysteries.

Actually “Cogito, Ergo Sum” is Latin, but the guy who made this phrase popular was French. His name was Rene’ Descartes, and he was trying to find a way to reduce philosophy to the most basic of self-evident premises. It doesn’t get any more basic than realizing that you exist. If you need a lot of evidence to believe that you exist, just give up. You’re never going to be anything but a skeptic. Continue reading

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Bogey-Man Atheists | Feedback Friday!

Welcome once again to Feedback Friday where I take actual replies from actual viewers and give actual answers with actual words! This comment is in response to this article where in I argue that the worldview of Atheism provides no foundation for believing that atheist parents are morally obligated to take care of their children- or anything else. The reader who chimed in, as you will see, entirely missed the point I was making and chooses to attack me for something I did not say:

Atheist don’t kill and eat their young, and for the most part hold all others in higher regard than Christians. Funny, the basis of your arguments are bogey man atheists and it couldn’t be farther from the truth. Just a small stat I ran into. .07% to .2% of US prisoners are atheist. Interesting. As far as caring for your young and other creatures Christians are the ones interested in dominating everything and subduing it. All the elements and organisms and life forms have an inherent struggle, a hope if you will to survive, to carry on another day. This includes propagating each species. It is a natural phenomenon that does not need a bible and a god to direct. I’ve read the accounts of Christians bullying their way all over the historical world forcing conversion or death. It is a system that breeds misery and guilt upon all who cross its path.

WOW. Did you get all of that? This is a common machine-gun style response where in our dear atheist friends assume that if they change the subject fast enough, we will be overwhelmed and simply toss our hands in the air and say, “Ugh, FINE. I guess there is no God! I’m going to go watch Netflix and never go to church again…”

But I replied: 

You seem to be missing the point. I didn’t SAY that all atheists kill and eat their young. But answer me this: WHY NOT?

Would it be EVIL?

The basis of my arguments are not some “bogey man atheists” as you claim here. The basis of my arguments are philosophical distinctions. I am making a philosophical argument ABOUT ATHEISM, not describing what I think ATHEISTS are like. If you read more carefully I think you would see this to be the case. You are arguing against points I NEVER made.

That’s called a Straw-man Fallacy.

Once again you claim a stat with no reference, which once again I reject without a resource to substantiate it, and once again I point out that it has NOTHING to do with the point I am making even if it was a substantiated fact. Read my posts again and you will never see me saying “People who claim to be Christians are BETTER PEOPLE and end up in jail LESS than people who claim to be Atheists.” And does your stat really show anything different than the population in general? Atheists are a tiny minority, and that is reflected in jail stats. OK. So what? Does this magically give Atheism an objective moral code?

No, it does not. So I don’t know why you would bother bringing it up.

Also, you have NOT “read the accounts of Christians bullying their way all over the historical world forcing conversion or death” because this is what ISLAM does, not Christianity. The Christian church has always grown under persecution. When it becomes established, and is given time to be rich and comfortable, it wilts, as its doing in Europe right now. What you have read is either the popular trend of blaming the church for what Islam does under the ridiculous idea that ALL religions are the same, and so the sins of one is the sins of ALL- or you have been reading internet fiction. And this: “Christians are the ones interested in dominating everything and subduing it” is mindless name calling which is not worth correcting. Don’t waste my time building arguments on bogey man Christians when you know it couldn’t be farther from the truth.

(That’s called a “Call Back.” See, because you said something like that above, and then you DID the very thing you accused me (Falsely) of, and then I quoted you back to you, only… well, you get it. “Call back”.)

But back to my point, from the worldview of atheism, were I to force you to profess faith in the church or be beheaded,

would that be EVIL?

Can an atheist claim ANYTHING is evil?
No. Atheism does not allow good or evil.
DO atheists call things good and evil?
YES, because they are not stupid enough to actually BE atheists.

My argument is based on the assumption that atheists are smarter and more moral than atheism.

Please read what I actually said before you go reacting to how you feel about what I said. It will make for a much better conversation.
Thanks.

 

 

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Proving God 7: We Hold These Truths to be Self-Evident

One of the classes you slept through in High School was the one where you should have learned the Declaration of Independence. It’s a long document which explains why we should have burned Washington DC to the ground long before Trump even announced his campaign to for the presidency. But I digress. It begins thusly:

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

I’m sure you’ve heard this part several times, just before your eye lids got heavy and the room went dark. But have you ever wondered what the phrase “Self-evident” means?

Just like it sounds, self-evident means it is SO OBVIOUS that merely hearing it is proof enough. The evidence for the truth is the truth itself.

One great example of self-evident is the law of non-contradiction. All it says is that anything is itself, and nothing is something other than itself. Or, as Dr Seuss once said, “You are YOU!”

And just to be preemptive- if you plan to send me an email which says, “Oh yeah? PROVE IT!” Don’t bother. If you need someone to prove to you that you are you, you are too stupid to talk to. Just make yourself a sock puppet and spend time yelling at it for a while.

That’s the point of the concept of “Self-evident.” Even if you CAN find evidence to prove it, you don’t NEED to because the alternatives are SO RIDICULOUS that they may as well be impossible merely by definition. Some things which most people would accept as self-evident are thing like:

The existence of the physical world.
The existence of people/minds other than ourselves.
The existence of ourselves.
The fact that we think when we think we are thinking.
The fact that bacon is delicious.
The cuteness of bunnies.

Alvin Plantinga has argued, and many have said very well, that belief in God is what he calls properly basic- meaning it is a self evident belief that we are born with, just as belief in the external world is properly basic. Apologist Sye Ten Bruggencate argues from the Bible that all people KNOW God exists, and they know the God of the Bible exists. Sye just goes to Romans chapter 1 and reads,

“…men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,[g] in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.”

Which, when you look at it, does sound like Paul is trying to say what can be known about God is plain to them, and that they are without excuse. But that’s just my interpretation. However, former atheists who have become Christians always tell the same story- they find that coming to Christ is a seeing what was always there, and accepting what they really always knew. I don’t know if I’ve ever heard a former atheist say, “I had NO IDEA God was there! I really thought atheism was true!” Maybe those people are out there, but I’ve not yet met one. They tend to be like people who are looking for their glasses, and come to discover they’ve been wearing them the whole time.

Don’t hate. We’ve all been there.

The rarity of Atheism is further proof of this concept. ALL Cultures have been theists. The whole human race for our entire history have been born knowing there was a “Higher power” or “Great Spirit” or “Jesus of Nazareth.” Some descriptions have been better than others, but they’ve all agreed that we are not merely matter, alone in the universe.

So I encourage you to ask questions, find answers, and examine the evidence, because I know you will eventually come to see what you already know and have suspected all along- God is there. That’s the truth- but even better than the truth is the good news that comes with it:

 “For God so loved the world,[i] that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

John 3

Faith in God is reasonable. Science does show his fingerprints all over the universe. Seek, and you will find. And as always, remember that #JesusLovesYou

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