The Definition of Atheism… Again

Below is a concise clarification of the argument offered in the video titled, The Definition of Atheism… Again.

Atheism
Traditionally, the statements “I do not believe God exists” and “I believe God does NOT exist” have been treated as equivalent. The new, social media definition of “Atheism” does NOT treat these as equivalent (or at least not necessarily).

Thus, where as the traditional definition of atheist has been one who says “God does not exist” the new social media definition says an atheist is merely one who lacks a belief in God. Or, as above, the self professing atheist is merely saying “I do not believe God exists” and is not necessarily saying “I do believe God does not exist.”

Burden of Proof
Naturally, this definition removes from the Atheist a burden of proof, because the statement “I do not believe God exists” is merely stating a fact about the atheist- noting an absence of a particular belief in his worldview. In their view, asking them to defend their lack of belief is like finding out that someone DOESN’T have a five dollar bill and asking “Where did you get that?” The question is nonsensical, because there is no origin for something which isn’t, and the lack of it is its own explanation.

This differs from “I believe God does not exist” because this statement immediately raises the question “WHY do you believe God does not exist?” The person saying that something IS (in this case, is absent) shoulders a burden of proof, meaning, for their position to be logical and rational, it must be based on an intellectual foundation. Both the person saying “God exists” and the person saying “God does not exist” have this same weighted burden of proof, for there must either be reasons for their position, or their position must be irrational.

Thus, the new definition allows the Atheist to declare himself an atheist without shouldering a burden of proof. Or it would, if the conversation ended there. But it does not.

Intellectual Dishonesty
Insisting that the conversation ends at the declaration that one lacks belief in God’s existence is intellectually dishonest. It is dishonest to the persons with whom they converse, and it is dishonest to themselves if they never continue the conversation with themselves to discover their own underlying intellectual foundation.

While the statement “I do not believe God exists” does not carry a burden of proof, because it is not asserting a statement about anything except the speaker, it does raise an immediate question: “Why?” And there are only two possible reasons why.

Reasons WHY one lacks belief in God

  1. They are confident in the absence of God
  2. They are NOT confident in the absence of God

It is worth noting that this is not referring to their emotional state, but to an intellectual confidence- meaning their position is built on a foundation of reason. How strongly they feel something is or is not, or how much they WANT it to be so does not matter in this discussion. Position #1 believes there is information which leads logically to the absence of God, where as position #2 does not have that information.

Because position #2 lacks the information to build a case against the existence of God, their position by default admits that God’s existence is a possibility. Clearly they do not have (or accept) the information to build a case FOR God’s existence as they have declared themselves to be an atheist, but neither do they have the information against God’s existence. On both grounds they are ignorant, and thus their position is Agnosticism. Again, it does not matter how they feel or what they want to be so. They are ignorant of the data it would take to build a intellectual foundation for the acceptance or rejection of God’s existence, and thus Agnosticism.

Just as above, as far as their intellectual position is concerned, it is merely, “I don’t know” which carries no burden of proof. The way many “atheists” of this kind adopt a burden of proof is by making claims based on their emotional or volitional positions instead of their intellectual position. If they say, “I don’t know” they have nothing to prove, because they have not made any assertions about the world, but only about their own ignorance. But many will make statements beyond this, such as “I don’t know, and neither do you,” or “No theist has ever proven the existence of God.” Once they start making statements like this, they have adopted a burden of proof because those statements are asserting a proposition.

Rational Atheism
For an atheist who believes they have a rational basis for asserting the absence of God, there can be any number of ideas they can point to for their own defense. However, the true burden of proof for the atheist is specific and significant. Because God’s existence is metaphysically necessary, the only way to argue against his existence is to prove that his existence is impossible.

While this is easy to state, the weight of this burden of proof is insurmountable. To be a rational atheist, one must literally prove that something which MUST exist CANNOT exist. This is akin to writing an essay to persuade the reader that words do not exist. Clearly no atheist has ever succeeded in this task, and very few have even claimed that it can be done. Because of the impossible nature of this task, no atheist has, and no atheist ever will make the argument for atheism and against the existence of God which is required to make a confidence in God’s absence intellectually justifiable.

Therefore, no one has earned the right to call themselves (on my definition) an atheist. Because they are unable to meet the intellectual foundation for a rejection of God’s existence, all must, by default, admit that His existence is possible, whatever they may feel about the matter. In summary, this means that all atheists (on either definition) are in fact Agnostics, and the use of the word atheist to describe any person is inaccurate and counterproductive.

The two points which are concluded in this argument are:

  1. Anyone using the word “Atheist” to describe themselves is in fact admitting to being an Agnostic
  2. Atheists do not exist

 

 

 

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Atheism according to Social Media

What is atheism? This used to be something everyone knew and no one argued about. For the past century (or three) western culture has had periodic debates about IF God exists or NOT, but not a lot of debates were about how to define atheism. Atheism was the side saying NOT. It was all pretty simple. Those were the days when we all knew that men should use the men’s rest room and women should use the women’s rest room, because we all knew men were not women. Remember those days? I miss those days.

Naturally, I have been defining atheism to mean “Atheism,” but thanks to social media, I have had a LOT of angry people insisting that I have blasphemed the sacred scriptures of dictionary.com and DEMANDING that I use the word to mean what THEY mean by it. Atheism, they insist, is a word describing a lack of belief in the existence of God (or gods, or goddesses, etc). If I can rabbit trail for just a second, what kind of a world do we live in where our culture demands we let each person choose their own gender but REFUSES to let me define a word the way I want to? How did the most recent edition of the dictionary become more absolute than actual human biology? But I digress.

I didn’t understand these MANY comments I got on social media until I figured out the unspoken assumption wherein we differed. When I used the word Atheism I was working under the assumption that the statements “I do not believe God exists” and “I believe God does not exist” were equivalent statements, because, in truth they are. My detractors on social media, however, are working under the assumption that these are NOT equivalent (or at least not Necessarily equivalent). When I figured this out, it all clicked into place.

I have stated in the past that the redefinition of the word “Atheism” has happened for the sole reason of allowing the atheist to avoid the burden of proof, because, as we all know, atheism is indefensible. But if they define atheism to mean merely a LACK of belief, then they don’t have to prove anything.

Or do they?

If the conversation ended there, they would not have anything to prove, because something NOT being doesn’t need a basis. If I may quote a song from the Muppets Most Wanted:

Sam the Eagle: “If they did it, how did they do it?”

French Cop: “If they didn’t, how did they didn’t?”

Sam the Eagle: “If they didn’t, then it’s easy, because they simply didn’t do it.”

That is a GREAT musical number. And the point Sam makes here is the one the atheists are trying to make- if they didn’t commit the crime, the police do not need to prove how they DIDN’T commit the crime. They just didn’t and the police need to find who did and prove THEY DID. Similarly, my friends on social media say, they DON’T believe, and a LACK of belief doesn’t carry a burden of proof. But they are only half right.

The fact is, the conversation doesn’t end there, even if they refuse to say any more. When a person says of themselves, “I do not believe (any proposition),” then logically there is one of two possible intellectual foundations for this position (or lack of position if you prefer to call it that.) They lack belief in the proposition because they KNOW (something) or because they do NOT know (something). In the case of the debate over the existence of God, the Atheist (Person who lacks belief in God’s existence) lacks belief because they know something which convinces them that they know God is absent, or they do not know something which convinces them that God is absent but also feel they don’t know something which proves He is present.

Thus, the two intellectual positions which are possible are:

  1. They are confident (intellectually) that God is absent
  2. They are NOT confident (intellectually) that God is absent

I say “intellectually” because I am referring to their intellectual basis for their worldview, and not their emotions. It matters little how confident they FEEL if they have no REASON to think what they do. This is true of anyone on any topic. You can FEEL REALLY CERTAIN of something, but if you have no intellectual foundation for that belief, then you do not KNOW and cannot say you KNOW, but must admit intellectual ignorance, meaning you lack an intellectual foundation for the belief, no matter how strongly you feel or how much you WANT it to be true.

If the reason one lacks a belief in the existence of God is #1, then they are what I call an Atheist. I am forced to use this word (even though in the beginning of this argument I conceded to the popular social media definition) for two reasons- first because that is what the word has always meant in western culture, and secondly because there is no other word which means that. The semantic warriors who take me to task for using the word this way show they know this is true at some level because no one has offered another word to take its place, but word combinations are tossed about to make up for the lack of a useful word, such as “Hard Atheist” or “Gnostic Atheist” etc. No one has EVER said, “Someone who believes that God does not exist is not an Atheist, he is a ______.” I’m still waiting for that blank to be filled in. But I digress.

So where I use the word “Atheist” of position #1, use whatever phrase you prefer. And don’t leave me any comments about it. I already know you’re angry at me for defining a word differently than you do. How dare I, Whom do I think I am, Etc.

Position #2 is simple. They are not intellectually confident that God is absent, which logically means they admit God MIGHT exist, however they feel about it, or whatever they WANT to be true. If they KNEW reasons to believe God exists, they would simply be theists, so they are ignorant of those reasons, and if they knew reasons to believe God is absent, they would simply be atheists (how I define it for position #1) but they are ignorant of those reasons. Since they lack information which would cause them to declare a position with intellectual confidence, they are agnostics, meaning their position is one of ignorance.

Let’s recap to this point just to make sure we’re all on the same page:

  1. We agree to define atheism to mean “a lack of belief in God.” All of my commenters/detractors on Social Media rejoice.
  2. We ask WHY a person would lack a belief in the existence of God.
  3. We find two possible reasons:
    1. They are confident in His absence
    2. They are NOT confident in His absence
  4. Those who feel they have a rational, intellectual foundation on which to base confidence in the absence of God are what I call Atheists
  5. Those who are not confident in God’s absence have admitted by default that God MAY exist in their view, and thus they are what I call Agnostics

Am I saying that, on the popular Social Media definition, some atheists are agnostics? No. I am saying that ALL atheists are agnostics.

What the WHAAAAAAATTTT??!?

Here’s the problem for the Atheist (position #1.) They DO have a burden of proof and it is a doozy. The ONLY way for a person to be an intellectually rational atheist is to prove that God’s existence is IMPOSSIBLE. If they cannot do that, they cannot be a rational atheist. They are merely an agnostic who REALLY REALLY REALLY doesn’t want to admit God may exist.

Before you go throwing full wine bottles at your computer screen, let me explain:

There are only three possible options for any person, place, thing, event, or idea:

  1. Impossible: It CANNOT exist in any possible world. For example, a square circle, or a married bachelor, or a five sided triangle.
  2. Contingent: It MAY exist in some possible world (Meaning, its existence in the real world would not be a contradiction or an impossibility). If it does exist, it is dependant on something/someone else to bring it into existence. For example: Root beer, Beethoven, ostriches, coffee mugs, Mr. Potato Head, or the episode of Start Trek about the Tribbles.
  3. Necessary: It MUST exist in ANY possible world. If you describe the whole of reality as being without this, your description is wrong. Examples: God, the number five, opposites, bacon.

This is really simple. I am talking about the God of the Bible, or as He is sometimes known, “The one TRUE God.” So if your description of what you call “God” is contingent, you are not talking about God. You’re just using the word wrong.

And we can argue to His being necessary in a variety of ways. First, because the Bible describes Him that way, and who are we to doubt His resume? And scientifically, because the universe needs a cause, and that cause must be God, and objective morality needs a cause, and that cause must be God, and every event needs a cause, but we can’t logically have an infinite regress of causes, so God must be the first, unmoved mover, or the first uncaused cause, etc.

The church has been writing on these things for two thousand years. So needless to say, I am summarizing here.

While there are no doubt lots of religions and atheists who describe God in ways which would make Him impossible, those descriptions are all wrong and do not agree with His self revelation in the Bible (Which is the only description I am interested in). The one true God as we learn in scripture, science, philosophy and history is necessary.

This brings us back to the atheists.

In order for a person to be an intellectually rational atheist, and have an actual confidence in the existence of God, they would have to prove (to themselves at least) that God’s existence is IMPOSSIBLE. But that means coming up with an argument which proves that a necessary being is impossible. I have likened this to writing a persuasive essay meant to convince the reader that words do not exist. You can try, but no one will ever succeed at this task.

Thus, no one can be an atheist. Everyone who claims that title must, if they are honest, admit that God MAY exist even in their own worldview. They may FEEL strongly that He does not, or that they do not want Him to, but they cannot say they know better. Not if they are honest.

This is why I have said that, even when defined in the popular social media way, atheists do not exist. Even if we start with defining atheism to be a mere lack of belief in God, all persons who would describe themselves as being atheistic are in fact agnostics who must, if they are honest, admit that God may exist. If they spent more time asking questions instead of pretending they already had answers, they could start making that journey from ignorance to theism, and then, when they get to know God personally, Christianity.

This is where you have the following talk with God;

“Say, the One True God, you are perfect and Holy, and I am a sinner. Can you help me with that?” and He says, “I already did. I lived a perfect, sinless life and died as the sacrifice which pays for your sins so that, if you choose to believe in me, you can have eternal life.” And you say, “Thanks, the one True God!” and He says, “Please, call me Dad.”

Really Jesus taught us that. Still knocks me over that God wants to be our Heavenly Daddy.

It’s the best news that ever was, and of that there can be no debate.

 

 

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Your Definition of Atheism is Counterproductive

Remember when you could use the word “Atheism” and everyone knew what it meant? Remember the days when a man could declare himself an atheist and everyone knew what he was trying to say? Thanks to the efforts of social media, those days are now gone.

Here’s a little insight into one of the many reasons why I reject the social media treatment of the word “Atheism.”

And as a serious question to everyone who is going to take me to task for wanting to define atheist to mean “atheist,” just fill in this blank for me: A person who’s position is, “God does not exist” is called a______________.
Because as of right now, I’ve not gotten a word that means that from all of my friends on social media. Which is why I still use the word Atheist.
Thanks!

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How to Spot an Atheist, A Bit of Orange Pictures, Ltd. 1947

What is atheism? What is an atheist? How do you spot an atheist? Learn how in this educational film!

Much to our surprise, the definition of Atheism offered on social media from our loyal viewers, specifically that Atheism is a lack of belief in the existence of God, has not only been around for longer than we thought, but A Bit of Orange Pictures Ltd. made an educational film about it back in 1947! We’ve dusted it off and offer it to you at this time.

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Atheists Angry That I Define Atheism to Mean Atheism (part 4)

The conclusion to the sold out show at the UnderGround. Karl Marx was an atheists, but now, according to some, so is your shoe. We need a word that means that?
Enjoy this bit of orange from the Underground.

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Atheists Angry That I Define Atheism to Mean Atheism (Part 3)

More of the sold out performance at the UnderGround. This bit of orange covers some recent videos, some of the reactions, such as the great anger some have because they define a word differently than we do, but at the same time they are ok with not existing. The dictionary Jihad attack in the name of the prophet Webster.

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Atheists Angry That I Define Atheism to Mean Atheism (Part 2)

Continuing a sold out show at the UnderGround with some real comments from social media. “If I made this stuff up, I wouldn’t believe me.”
Learn how the same comment can call you a liar and agree with you in the same sentence. Then we learn how to question the question, especially when it involves invisible dinosaurs.

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Atheists Angry That I Define Atheism to Mean Atheism (Part 1)

Live from the UnderGround, Bryan from ABitOfOrange.com tells the hilarious tales of his recent conversations with self-professed atheists on the social media. In the first installment, we learn about the Logical Fallacy of the Month, the fact that many atheists are apparently ok with not existing, and we get a visit from Carl the rabbit and Tom the Giraffe.

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The Savage Truth About Atheism

A dramatic reading by Bryan from ABitOfOrange.com


Read the Full script here: https://rentafriend2000.wordpress.com/2014/08/07/mythbusters-save-the-day-again-or-the-savage-truth-about-atheism/

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Atheism is STUPID.

While it may be true that some self-professing atheists are very intelligent, it doesn’t change the fact that atheism itself is AMAZINGLY stupid.

I sum up a few reasons why in this rant, but I elaborate far more on what Atheism is in my video, the 15 Tenets of Orthodox Atheism:  https://youtu.be/SiNNgVkaFFE

First, most people who call themselves “Atheist” are using the word wrong. They are really agnostics. They lack a belief in God, but do NOT assert as a fact that God does not exist.

Of those who really mean “Atheist,” most of them are simply too lazy to find out what the word means, because if they knew what Atheism teaches, they would never apply that label to themselves.
The rest are probably insane. See the video links in the description of my video, the 15 Tenets of Orthodox Atheism:  https://youtu.be/SiNNgVkaFFE

And check out these self professed atheists following the logic of their faith to it’s logical conclusion to tragic/hilarious results: https://youtu.be/X9ioXu-07z0

Atheism demands you believe that NOTHING created EVERYTHING. Those who profess this are forced to change the definition of “Nothing.” Good bye, sweet science. We hardly knew ye.

If atheism is true, then you may as well be a toaster. You cannot have free will, a unified self, and true knowledge is impossible. Which should be a good indication that Atheism is false. Because if you’re one of those people who say, “Oh, I suppose I don’t exist, I have no free will, and I can’t know anything,” then I don’t know what to do with you. Just stuff a pop tart in your mouth and sit quietly on the kitchen counter.

Atheism is COMPLETELY indefensible. There is not a single argument in its favor. Here are a couple of professional atheists making this point for me: https://youtu.be/WbxqvugoJuw
The point is, atheism is false. God is real, and he loves you.

John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.”

But I suspect you are all smart enough to know that already.

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