Transgenderism is when a man decides he is a woman, or when a woman decides she is a man. Today the kids on college campuses and all around the old internet are being taught that sex and gender are NOT the same thing- that SEX is biological, but GENDER is societal or personal or something like that. It’s actually REALLY difficult to get anyone to give a clear answer about these things.
And if it was just the acknowledgement that sometimes you feel like a man and some days you don’t, and some days you lay on the couch crying and watching the Notebook while eating strawberry cheesecake ice cream right from the carton trying not to even THINK of the cultural expectations for men back when your grandfather was your age because you know you would NEVER be able to meet them…
What was I saying? I think what I’m saying is that, if the conversation was just about how we feel about ourselves, then we would have something to think about. Something to talk about. Maybe even something we could all agree on, because, let’s face it, not a lot of men FEEL MANLY ALL OF THE TIME. But the way this issue is being treated and talked about is not in this manner. People are PUSHING for legal forms, like your driver’s licence, to be open to more than two genders. In Canada it is possible to change the gender on your own BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
Now for the people advocating this, this is a matter of respecting people’s self identification. HOWEVER, there are two issues which immediately come to mind that makes me see this as a VERY DANGEROUS thing:
- Medicine. Men’s bodies and women’s bodies are NOT the same, and they need different kinds of care and sometimes different kinds of medicine. When someone’s gender is NOT correctly identified- and I mean according to their actual body and not their self perception- then they can fail to get the care they need or they can be given drugs which can harm them. If a doctor treats a man as a woman because the patient’s LEGAL gender is FEMALE, and the patient is harmed or killed because of it, or if a doctor fails to give preventative care- say the doctor never suggests a prostate exam because the patient is “FEMALE” but then the patient gets prostate cancer- is the doctor going to be held liable? Will doctors be considered negligent or guilty of malpractice if a patient is treated according to their LEGAL GENDER and comes to harm? It is possible.
- CSI. When the cops arrive at the scene of a grizzly double homicide and find the DNA of the killer, which is XY, they know their suspect is MALE. But if the killer is capable of changing his driver’s licence and BIRTH CERTIFICATE and any other legal documents, the search for the killer is HINDERED by this, making it harder to bring criminals to justice. Just imagine this loop hole being used by sex offenders and child predators.
You want respect? Sure, we all do. But forcing others to accept the lie you tell yourself might get you killed. Or help you get away with murder. Frankly, I’m not in favor of either.
Oh, MY Gender? I identify as “Vocal Binary” which means I only use the pronouns which match a person’s biological sex/gender. Asking me to do otherwise is not only disrespectful, it’s hate speech. I’m feeling triggered just thinking about it.
I’m going to lie down and eat some ice cream.
Well said. You bring up very good point about medical care. Men and women can have very different symptoms when it comes to something like a heart attack. A woman for example can have severe wrist pain and that would concern us. It would not concern us in a man. That’s because women’s hearts are always in their hands! I jest about that last part, but the truth is that we are simply biologically different in many ways.
thanks. Frankly, all of this seems to obvious to me that i wonder why its even a conversation, except that it gives the democrats and other liberals a means by which to call the church hateful and intolerant.
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“CSI. When the cops arrive at the scene of a grizzly double homicide and find the DNA of the killer, which is XY, they know their suspect is MALE”
I see this as implying you have no idea what DNA is and how forensic analysis are done and for what purpose
At the heart of DNA ( Deoxyribonucleic acid ) evidence is the biological molecule itself, which serves as an instruction manual and blueprint for everything in your body. A DNA molecule is a long, twisting chain known as a double helix. DNA is not XY, but it’s made of four nucleotides:
Adenine, Cytosine, Guanine and Thymine; a deoxyribose sugar, phosphodiester bonds
These nucleotides exist as base pairs that link together like the rungs in a ladder. Adenine and thymine always bond together as a pair, and cytosine and guanine bond together as a pair. While the majority of DNA doesn’t differ from human to human, some 3 million base pairs of DNA (about 0.10 percent of your entire genome) vary from person to person.In human cells, DNA is tightly wrapped into 23 pairs of chromosomes. One member of each chromosomal pair comes from your mother, and the other comes from your father. In other words, your DNA is a combination of your mother’s and your father’s DNA. Unless you have an identical twin, your DNA is unique to you. it’s almost impossible for someone else to have DNA that is identical to yours
The DNA analysis process provides the analyst with a chart called an electropherogram, which displays the genetic material present at each loci tested. In a complete profile, each person will exhibit either one or two peaks (alleles) at each locus. Loci that display only one allele indicate that the individual inherited the same marker from both parents at this locus. Where two alleles are displayed, the individual inherited different markers. In practice, evidence often contains a mixture of DNA from more than one person. WIll stop this DNA comment here, will advise you carry out more research more on dna or forensic study before posting, because anyone who knows what DNA is will not say DNA is XY. But if you know how CSI carry out their analysis, they match the DNA results from analysis of all the suspects involved, they don’t just match let’s say only the male or only the female
“But if the killer is capable of changing his driver’s licence and BIRTH CERTIFICATE and any other legal documents, the search for the killer is HINDERED by this, making it harder to bring criminals to justice”
This has nothing to do with transgenderism. The ability to change/forge any legal document has nothing to do with transgenderism
“Just imagine this loop hole being used by sex offenders and child predators.”
Welcome to earth I don’t know which planet you are from but in this one almost anybody can forge any document.
In planet earth there is also something called Medical History
“if a doctor fails to give preventative care- say the doctor never suggests a prostate exam because the patient is “FEMALE” but then the patient gets prostate cancer”
If you research on how the procedure of gender change, you would have heard about Sex reassignment surgery, Hormone replacement therapy, genital reassignment surgery or genital reconstruction surgery. And most importantly there is also something called Medical History
Thanks for welcoming me to earth. I appreciate that. I’ve actually been here for a while, but its still nice to feel welcomed.
Your first issue seems to be that I said “the DNA of the killer, which is XY” Where as I suppose I should have said “the DNA of the killer, which contains the X and Y chromosomes.” But I assumed everyone would know what I was talking about. You seem to have already known that. So, this is semantic nit-picking which says nothing about the point I was making. I mean, nobody says “If you research on how the procedure of gender change” like YOU said here, and you don’t see me bring it up. I get what you were TRYING to say even if you said it like a public school graduate would say it on the internet.
It’s also really cute that you jump into “I see this as implying you have no idea what DNA is” and then lecture me about genetics because, and of course you had no way of knowing this, I teach on genetics and other biology concepts professionally to adult students (and no, not just here on my blog- professionally). So, as you can see, you jumped from “He didn’t say that the way I WOULD HAVE SAID IT,” to “He knows NOTHING about DNA!” But that’s entirely wrong and a silly leap in logic for you to decide to take.
Its like if I call Kylo Ren a Sith, I’d know that is wrong too. Actually, I’ve never done that, but I know other people who would say that kind of thing. It doesn’t mean they don’t know anything about Star Wars, it just means they were not being super careful with their words.
But of course, they SHOULD know better than that. I mean, people refer to the biological component which determines gender as DNA being XX or XY all of the time, just like we refer to sunrise and sunset, even though we believe the earth is rotating and the sun is not RISING, but calling Kylo Ren a SITH is just lazy and entirely wrong. I can’t believe people even do that. Don’t they LISTEN when they’re watching a movie? Are they just playing Candy Crush until the light-saber fights? COME ON PEOPLE! GET YOUR HEADS IN THE GAME!!!
Hold on, I forgot the point you were making…
Ugh. You just copied and pasted the ENTIRE Wikipedia article about DNA here, didn’t you? No wonder I found this comment in the SPAM folder.
Ok, a few pages down you say “anyone who knows what DNA is will not say DNA is XY.” and I disagree. Agree to disagree. By which I mean you are wrong. People do say that. I said it, and I know DNA as well as anyone needs to.
Let’s see what else…
“they match the DNA results from analysis of all the suspects involved” this comment sounds to me like you are assuming that CSI works in real life like it does on TV. You find the killer among the friends and co workers, and so you just round up the usual suspects, get a spit sample to use for DNA matching and see who fits. Sometimes you have DNA and no one standing around to match it to. Sometimes you have DNA and you need to match it to a database to find the culprit. And if the DNA catalog doesn’t have a match, it will at least tell you if you are looking for a man or a woman. So you go looking for a man… but what if, stay with me here, what if the MAN who left DNA at the scene of the crime is LEGALLY a “woman.” And so when the cops go looking for a MAN so they can get the spit sample to do the DNA test to match to the crime scene… they can’t find him because he is not LEGALLY a HIM anymore.
Is this point really that hard to understand? I think I explained it well enough in the article you are replying to.
Then you say “This has nothing to do with transgenderism. The ability to change/forge any legal document has nothing to do with transgenderism” I’m not talking about falsifying documents. I am talking about the LEGAL documents being LEGALLY changed BY THE GOVERNMENT so that men have LEGAL documents which list them as WOMEN. Which has already been happening. So… yes it does. This is the point of the article. It’s not about FORGING documents. It’s not about having a faker drivers license.
Next time Johnny, less semantic nit-picking, more reading for comprehension.
You say “In planet earth [This should have said ON planet earth, because if you were IN Planet earth you would be killed by liquid hot magma] there is also something called Medical History.” And in America there are 11 MILLION Illegals in this country. So… how does an American Police officer get a hold of the Medical History of a person who wasn’t born here? When the cops find DNA at a murder scene that has the XY Chromosomes, showing a MALE murderer, but the MALE Murderer is a man with no medical history in America, maybe no where, who is recognized BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA as a WOMAN- how do the cops find HIM? How does this magical MEDICAL HISTORY help in this case? In the case where it DOESN’T EXIST? Suspects don’t all get filed into a room to be examined with genetic testing. They have to narrow it down by computer and or paperwork. But when the paperwork says Rapist/Murderer Perfecto Sanchez is a “woman”, then what database of MALE offenders or MALE suspects is he going to show up in?
Again, Johnny my friend, this was the entire point of this article. Maybe if you spend less time copy and pasting from Wikipedia, and more time reading for comprehension, you’d catch the point I am actually making.
Also, do you realize that your last comment doesn’t actually make a point except to imply that I’m an idiot? I mean, you really don’t make ANY point at all. None. Nothing you said relates to what I said, let alone refutes it. In fact, what you said was BARELY a sentence, let alone could it be considered an argument for or against anything.
Try a little harder next time, Johnny. But, thanks again for welcoming me to earth. I’ll sleep a little better tonight because of that.
ON the earth, not IN it. Because that would burn me into ash pretty quickly.
And thanks for your comments.
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Here are some good points in the current transgender debate.
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Very interesting. Be more interesting if you got your facts straight. No one ‘decides’ to change genders. A fully functional man–or woman–does not suddenly one day ‘decide’ to become the opposite sex and viola, there they are. Most if not all of them feel otherly challenged even as children, and depending on their family ‘standards’ they either shut up about it or tell someone, i.e., “mamma, I don’t feel like a girl. I feel like a boy’. It’s got nothing to do with wanting to wear blue or pink, or playing with ‘girl toys’ or ‘boy toys” but an internal feeling that must be agonizing for them and for everyone around them.
I think you’ve confused cross dressing with gender issues. Not the same thing at all.
I suspect you are also of the persuasion that a gay can be ‘converted’ to straight, if they just try harder.
Hey Judy, thanks for stopping by.
I didn’t intend to say that people decide to change genders. I intended to say that no one CAN change genders. And they don’t. They declare themselves to be something they know they are not. What I said was, “Transgenderism is when a man decides he is a woman, or when a woman decides she is a man.” Those men are still men, and you acknowledge that by calling them “Transgender”- otherwise you would merely call them “Women.” They don’t (and cannot) decide to change their gender. They can only decide to think of themselves or to insist others think of them as the opposite gender.
And while I’m sure cross dressing is a very related lifestyle choice, I know these are not synonymous. For instance, you say “It’s got nothing to do with wanting to wear blue or pink, or playing with ‘girl toys’ or ‘boy toys.” And I get that. My wife’s favorite color is blue, and my daughter loves the Teen Age Mutant Ninja Turtles. Both of them own and wear pants. I never claimed that there are toys God only intended BOYS to play with. Gender is innate and biological and even spiritual, but toys and colors and clothes don’t determine any of those things.
You describe transgenderism as “an internal feeling that must be agonizing for them and for everyone around them.” and no doubt this is true. People with this problem commit suicide at STAGGERING rates. Our cultural embracing of their identity confusion or even the surgery to complete the facade doesn’t seem to help. Being unable to reconcile what you are with how you feel is hard for anyone. But telling people the lies they are struggling with does not help them. When a boy says, “I don’t feel like a boy,” and your answer is, “You aren’t a boy, you are a girl.” that must be devastating for them. What brings healing is a healthy acceptance of the truth- that God made us male and female and each of those distinctions in His image are valuable and special. But pretending that boys are girls doesn’t bring healing. It kills people. Lies always bring death.
But of course, none of this was the point of the article you are replying under. I wonder if you might need to read it again so you can reply to what I actually said here.
As for gay to strait conversion, I would be neutral about it if I hadn’t heard so many people tell their stories of being “delivered” from their prior homosexual lifestyles (I say “Delivered” because that is the word I have heard many of them use when talking about it). I know you may think homosexual is a species, like “Panda” or “Giraffe.” But it is not. And just like telling boys they are not male, telling homosexuals that THAT is their species, and to even think about changing betrays their TRUE SELF is a vile form of hatred which literally kills people. I certainly do not say the difference between gay and strait is merely trying harder, anymore than the difference between being fat and thin is merely trying harder, but on the most important level, even an addict makes choices. God tells us to choose the way of life and not the way of death. For some he gives an easy path, for others he gives sufficient grace. But we all must choose. Right and wrong are not determined by how easy it is to choose. The designer built purpose into the design, and when we betray that design we are not free- we bring death.
Thanks for your comments.
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