Just when I had begun to think, “Maybe I’m being too hard on the Atheists** out there. Maybe they aren’t insane people who give no thought to what they profess,” CNN gathers the data it takes to remind me that, if anything, I need to be more cynical. Thanks a lot CNN.
You jerks…
It was in fact Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis who shared this, via this blog post.
The list of 10 (non) commandments for Atheists was compiled from 2,800 submissions from 18 different countries. What would be really interesting is to see how many submissions there would have been if they had to pass a breathalyzer or the 8th grade to send them in. But I digress. The point is, we get to see what the human race would come up with to replace God’s revelation of rules for better homes and gardens if given the chance, and the result is a reminder that people are made in the image of God with His word written on their hearts, and yet many of them do not stop to think about anything, at all, ever.
Ken Ham goes through each one and compares it with the Bible’s teaching on similar topics, because he’s a lot more mature than I am. I suggest you take a look at what he has to say. Me? I’m going to make fun of these people and their collectively submitted butts. Prepare once again to witness the tragic failure of orthodox atheism, and I suspect the unfortunate collision of failing public schools mixed with illegal drugs.
“Public School! Reading scores get low while the kids get high, or your money back.”
While CNN does not report on this, I suspect it was handed down to a hung-over Jack Black on a mountain of dirty laundry, having been carved into a plaque of dried E-Z cheese by chance random processes over millions of years.
The 10 (non) commandments of Atheism.
#1. Be open-minded and be willing to alter your beliefs with new evidence.
This is great advice, and interestingly is exactly why I became a young earth Creationist. Ironically, it’s advice which conflicts with atheism. When bitter, Bible/Christian-hating atheists like Josh McDowell, Lee Stroble, or CS Lewis actually took this advice, they became Christians. (Listen to one former atheist say just this HERE.)
CURSE YOU EVIDENCE AND REASON!!!
CURSE YOOOOUUUU!!!!!!!
Fooey! I thought atheists were atheists because they were people of REASON who followed the evidence wherever it went and rejected Christianity because of the lack of evidence for it. Isn’t that what they claim on their blog posts and bumper stickers? Now it seems that an open minded look at evidence leads to FAITH IN GOD?!?!? What is to become of the New Atheism???
But wait! There’s a way that your atheism can be protected from evidence or arguments: The Inner Witness of Atheism. You will think I am making this up, but I am not. Here’s just one of MANY examples I could give of an atheist declaring just this:
“Sometimes I am tempted to “backslide” from atheism and I recall the inspiration and comfort I used to get from religion. But then, when I really think about it, I have an overwhelming and undeniable sense of disgust and revulsion when I think about being a Christian again…whatever I believe, I can’t believe that. Christian dogmas just seem to be fantasies, no matter how many apologies for them I hear.”
-Dr. Keith Parsons- *1. [Editor’s note- by ‘apologies’ he means evidence and arguments, not Christians saying they are sorry]
That’s right kids. When your faith in atheism is shaken by evidence and reason, hold fast to your yucky feelings against it! Because, I guess that leaves your mind open. Open like a Russian Gulag.
What’s that? You want more, right from the atheist horse’s mouth? Oh, ok. One more. This one is about the open-mindedness of atheists in the fields of science:
“It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.”
-Professor Richard Lewontin-*.2
No doubt I could do this all day, but you get the idea. For now, considering these open-minded admissions of the Atheists, let us consider their second (non) commandment:
#2. Strive to understand what is most likely to be true, not to believe what you wish to be true.
I don’t make this stuff up you know. And when you don’t believe me, it hurts my feelings.
The Atheists on the internet will refer to themselves as “reasonable” and will make comments like #2 here to implicate Christians as being “wishful thinkers.” But sometimes, probably by accident, they admit things like this:
“I want atheism to be true and am made uneasy by the fact that some of the most intelligent and well-informed people I know are religious believers. It isn’t just that I don’t believe in God and, naturally, hope that I’m right in my belief. It’s that I hope there is no God! I don’t want there to be a God…”
-Thomas Nagel-*3
And then these open minded Atheists become college professors and poison whole generations against thinking.
The atheists of course mean to imply with these two (non) commandments that Christians are the close minded wishful thinkers, but even without the gems dredged up by quote mining, you can see their EPIC FAILURE by seeing the discussion between Christians and Atheists on every part of the blogosphere or in various types of print.
The Atheist says, “WHAT EVIDENCE AND REASON do you have for believing the Bible is true and God is real?”
And the Christians come up with the brilliant apologetic works of GK Chesterton, CS Lewis, Peter Kreeft, (Just to name some from the most recent century) as well as decades of work from organizations like Reasonable Faith, Answers in Genesis, Ravi Zacharias International Ministries, Cold Case Christianity, Cross Examined, Tekton Ministries, and dozens more on TV, Radio, Internet, and print, covering science, history, philosophy, and many other related fields.
Then the Christians say, “WHAT EVIDENCE AND REASON do you have for Atheism?”
And the Atheists say, “Stop trying to force the burden of proof on me! I don’t have to prove anything!”
Which to me sums it all up fairly well.
We’ve only just begun the wacky walk down the Atheist top 10 (non) commandments. Next time we will see them REALLY wishing they were Jewish or Christian. It would be sad if it weren’t already so dern funny. So, join me next time, and remember, #JesusLovesYou
To check out the many arguments for the existence of God and the many intellectual organizations sharing it, check out: the A Bit Of Orange Academy
*1. Read more: 1. http://www.reasonablefaith.org/answering-critics-of-the-inner-witness-of-the-spirit
*2. http://creation.com/amazing-admission-lewontin-quote
*3. http://creation.com/thomas-nagel-i-hope-there-is-no-god
**Atheism is the belief that there is no god. According to the Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy:
“Atheism is the position that affirms the non-existence of God. It proposes positive disbelief rather than mere suspension of belief.”1
I am not in any way making fun of honest thinkers who feel they have not been shown sufficient evidence- people who would rightly be called “Agnostics” or, as the Mythbusters would say, “Plausable.”
A Bit of Orange 
It’s funny. I saw an atheist post these same commandments recently on his blog. It’s also funny that number 5 is a total contradiction for someone who doesn’t believe in God, not to mention, a meaningless opinion rather than some maxim. And which of these “truths” did they not borrow from religion in the first place? These people show a pathetic ignorance of history.
Atheism may technically be not believing in God, but it’s a religious ideology the way it’s practiced by the new atheists. Their theology is scientism.
Great post, btw! Look forward to the rest.
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Howdy Mel!
History, like science, is no friend of atheism. You speak the truth there my friend.
Thanks for your comments!
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“This is great advice, and interestingly is exactly why I became a young earth Creationist. ” why is it that plenty of Christians don’t agree with young earth creationism claims and are sure that you are wrong? What evidence do you have that says that they are wrong and why can’t you convince them?
I’ll have to say that your post reads like satire about Christians and how ignorant and deceitful they can be. You’ve hit all of the failed Christian claims, and you even tell lies about atheists and misrepresent what they have said.
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Howdy Hey Club,
You ask a valid question. “why is it that plenty of Christians don’t agree with young earth creationism claims and are sure that you are wrong?” The same reason atheists also disagree and think I am wrong, and the same reason I used to think something I now know to be wrong- ignorance.
I didn’t know the evidence against the Big bang or deep time, and most people don’t either. They are spoon fed evolution, big bang and deep time with NO questions asked or allowed, and so they don’t even know to question it. Public school kids believe that stuff for the same reason little tykes believe in Santa Claus- they’ve been told its true, everyone else believes it, including the adults, and they have never been told the case against it. Why would they ever question it? Have YOU ever REALLY questioned it? Or have you been content to merely mock the unbelievers for not having your faith? Because THAT is one of the reasons I have trouble convincing people. Because, aside from being intellectually LAZY, many of them are stupid enough to think that MOCKING something is the same thing as making a valid case against it.
And your follow up question is equally valid and the answers can be found here:
The answer, in a word, is science. Check that out and try to keep an open mind because, no, Virginia, there is no Santa Claus.
I have to say your comment- especially the last bit- reads like every other sarcastic and woefully ignorant atheist who stops by here to pretend they are asking questions but who have NO desire to even be made aware that there are answers (Plugging their ears and screaming “Lalala! No REAL Scientist believes…!!!” at the first sign of an intelligent reply from a Christian), so that they can hobble back to their echo chambers and tell other likewise ignorant atheists that Christians “have no answers”. But maybe we should both be more concerned with the substance of the arguments and not our petty armchair psychoanalysis of each other, eh?
For instance, you say “you even tell lies about atheists and misrepresent what they have said.” but you offer no examples nor any counterclaims. You do not say HOW I lied, or what I misrepresented. Clearly this is because you know you are wrong and have stooped to name calling instead of making the case which you already know cannot be made. You know I have not lied nor misrepresented anything- But that, you will see, makes YOU the liar. The substance, on your side of this post, is severely lacking and you have seen fit to make due with name calling and telling lies. Just like every other atheist on the internet.
DO try better next time. I’m happy to reply if you have questions or comments of SUBSTANCE.
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Editor’s Note:
Hey clubschadenfreude,
You said a LOT (and a very VERY lot) of stuff here, and most of it was not worth reading, so I cut out the boring parts and used the rest to reply to you.
You’re welcome.
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I took all the good parts from the above comment (Ugh, PAGES of it..) and worked it into the following reply. Clubby says:
I figured I address all of your nonsense now.
Orange: And I figured I adresses all of yours from inside- to save on space. Also, I’ll be deleting the boring repetitive stuff. Your comment was REALLY long. And boring.
For all of your calling other people ignorant, your willful ignorance is amazing. Like many Christians, you depend on willful ignorance to cling to your religion. The same science that you enjoy when you use computers, GPS, modern foodstuffs, forensic investigation, cable tv, smart phones, modern medicine, confirms that the theory of evolution is accurate, and that the BBT is the best explanation for what we observe.
Orange: The existence of Smart Phones, Microwave Popcorn and Cable TV proves Biological evolution? The existence of Google Chrome and Twizzlers prove to you that the universe exploded, from nothing, into the fine tuned work of art all around us? REALLY? This is your grasp of science and logic?
I can’t think of a nice way to say how amazingly stupid that is, but when I do I will let you know.
Don’t try to explain it to me, just ask yourself, “HOW does the existence of the laptop and antibiotics prove that worms evolved into fish?” If you can’t see what I’m getting at, I probably can’t help you.
Edit: A lot of whining which all boils down to “Creationists are LIARS!” But no case made to support the accusation. Typical.
Yep, I’ve “really” questioned it and darn, I know you are lying and creationists lie constantly. It’s always fun to see you try to convince yourself that only those who “really” question it will agree with you. They won’t. Your creation myth is no more special than any other theist’s.
Note: A whole paragraph of garbage like this. What are we in the 3rd grade or something? Well, OK…
Orange: I know you are, but what am I?
blah blah blah…
Another paragraph where in he calls Creationists liars… BORING…
And another…
He’s all, “You don’t have any evidence! and I know some swears!…”
It’s so sweet that you think that since I didn’t take a moment to underline your false claims and your lies about others, that they don’t exist. Tsk. Nope, I know you lied and you misquoted. Let’s see how you’ve done so.
Orange: WHAT? Is he actually going to make a case to PROVE I am a liar? It’s about time. A page and a half of saying so over and over and OVER. Let’s see how it goes. I’m going to microwave myself a bag of evidence for evolution with salt and butter for this dog and pony show!
“Prepare once again to witness the tragic failure of orthodox atheism, and I suspect the unfortunate collision of failing public schools mixed with illegal drugs.” Nice lie here, always trying to make false accusations about people you don’t like.
Orange: Uh… are you going to tell me what the lie is? Or why it’s wrong? No? Just going to quote me and call it a lie? OK. If that makes you happy. I guess we can all ASSUME that I said something deliberately false and/or misleading. Which contains the phrase “I suspect.” And would be recognized as an attempt at humor by anyone sober and at least mostly awake…
“When your faith in atheism is shaken by evidence and reason, hold fast to your yucky feelings against it! Because, I guess that leaves your mind open. Open like a Russian Gulag.” Dr. Parson didn’t say what you claim he said. How pathetic to try to twist words.
Orange: Uh, yes. Yes he basically did. What I am doing is making a hyperbolic paraphrase. That’s not a lie. Maybe you need to surf on over to dictionary.com and look up “lie”? or read that quote again, because I have represented it accurately.
Or… you could do the work of showing how I TWISTED his words? No? Too much trouble to do in a 13,000 word reply which is, thus far, 79% “Liar, liar, pants on fire”? Ok, have it your way.
You might actually read Dr. Lewontin’s whole review rather than the part of creationists have taken out of context, and misquoted, http://www.drjbloom.com/Public%20files/Lewontin_Review.htm . Here is how it ends “Carl Sagan, like his Canadian counterpart David Suzuki, has devoted extraordinary energy to bringing science to a mass public. In doing so, he is faced with a contradiction for which there is no clear resolution. On the one hand science is urged on us as a model of rational deduction from publicly verifiable facts, freed from the tyranny of unreasoning authority. On the other hand, given the immense extent, inherent complexity, and counterintuitive nature of scientific knowledge, it is impossible for anyone, including non-specialist scientists, to retrace the intellectual paths that lead to scientific conclusions about nature. In the end we must trust the experts and they, in turn, exploit their authority as experts and their rhetorical skills to secure our attention and our belief in things that we do not really understand. Anyone who has ever served as an expert witness in a judicial proceeding knows that the court may spend an inordinate time “qualifying” the expert, who, once qualified, gives testimony that is not meant to be a persuasive argument, but an assertion unchallengeable by anyone except another expert. And, indeed, what else are the courts to do? If the judge, attorneys, and jury could reason out the technical issues from fundamentals, there would be no need of experts.” This is a discussion about authority, not about the methods and results of science. Creationists lie again.
Orange: So, you answer our interpretation of a quote by posting a totally different quote? This is not how logic works. This is how CNN works.
And did you even read this quote? Let me quote your quote to you: “In the end we must trust the experts and they, in turn, exploit their authority as experts and their rhetorical skills to secure our attention and our belief in things that we do not really understand.” This isn’t science using evidence to persuade reasonable people. This is the language of cultists being asked NOT to think for themselves.
And suddenly you make sense. YOU my friend, are in a cult.
And are essentially admitting here that you are SUPER guilty of the appeal to authority fallacy.
And refusing to think for yourself. Were you raised in the JW’s?
But this quote is about the contradiction between the lip-service paid to “science … as a model of rational deduction from publicly verifiable facts” and the fact that these atheist fools have begun to realize that they demand people believe their conclusions MERELY because they are the “experts”. He says here, “the expert, who, once qualified, gives testimony that is not meant to be a persuasive argument, but an assertion unchallengeable by anyone except another expert.”
Can you not see what he is saying? He’s admitting that their position is, “NO ONE CAN CHALLENGE OUR OPINIONS EXCEPT US!”
How does this make the Creationists liars? Because it seems like this quote you mined is proving my point rather well.
I actually like this quote a lot. I shall certainly be using it in the future.
We have you insisting how great C.S. Lewis is (who said lie to people so they don’t know how much Christians don’t agree),
Orange: Um… either present the reference for this and quote CS lewis for us or… you are a liar, liar, pants on fire.
But we both know you can’t reference this pretend CS Lewis quote because it is pretend.
Because, no, he never said that.
WHO is the liar NOW, Clubby?
It’s you. The liar is you.
and the other apologists who also have no evidence for their claims. William L. Craig is a great one for makin claims and then not even having a “tomb” to put his nonsense in.
Orange: I don’t even know what this is supposed to mean. Seriously. Read what you wrote and tell me this meant something. I’m suspecting you left out a lot of words. Words that would have made this an English sentence.
I have plenty of evidence for atheism.
Orange: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
No miracles, no evidence for the events in the bible but plenty of evidence for completely different things happening, believers not agreeing, the universe being less then the perfection claimed by believers, claism of Christians and the bible failing to happen, etc.
Orange: Oh, you thought… this is your “evidence”? Sentence fragments and your own ignorance? Ah, well, as I have shown before, ignorance is the only evidence atheists have. Thank you for proving my point.
And you are an atheist too, because you are sure that other gods don’t exist but funny how you can’t be sure that is the case.
Orange: Hop on over to dictionary.com and look up atheist because, no. Just no.
Also, “you are sure that other gods don’t exist but funny how you can’t be sure ..”
Didn’t proofread any of this, huh? Maybe next time you might want to take a minute and see what you said before you put it on the internet.
How do you answer your own question “WHAT EVIDENCE AND REASON do you have for Atheism?” And can you tell me when the noah flood happened? The “creation”? The “exodus”? the cruxiiction and resurrection? Surely you can, right?
Orange: 1. Yes, yes I can, and
2. Asking WHEN something happened is not the same as asking for evidence that it did happen.
In my head I’m all, “he knows that, right?” And then I scroll up and remember that you think microwave popcorn proves Darwinian evolution.
You make me a little sad.
As for jesus loving anyone, how does that work with people starving, people not being healed as promised in the bible, Christians being just like the rest of us?
Orange: So your question is, why do bad thing happen when bad people do bad things to other people? But, that’s a totally separate question from your wonder about the love of Jesus. It is in fact the evidence that we NEED salvation.
Jesus love is shown by his paying the price to pay for our sins- your sins and mine (After all, Christians are just like the rest of you- what did you expect? That we’d be able to fly?)- with his death on the cross.
“Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.”- John 15:13
Because we are all bad people:
“For all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God.” Romans 3:23
“But God demonstrates His love toward us, in that, while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:8
“That if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” Romans 10: 9-10
Read more about it here: https://www.allaboutgod.com/the-roman-road.htm
Maybe you could stop the name calling (Which will save you a LOT of time) and just ask some good questions. And thanks again for that quote. That will come in handy.
#JesusLovesYou
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Well, to start at the end, you claim that Jesus loves me. I sang the song about Jesus loves the little children when I was in bible school and I taught it to others when I taught bible school. Then I realized that this was complete nonsense when I saw the pictures of starving children, and later the pictures of children with their limbs cut off by machetes, and the children in childrens hospitals dying of cancer, genetic diseases, etc. Where is the love there? What “love” allows this when it supposedly can miraculously feed people, heal them, etc? And great fun that you chose to end that way when fill in the rest of your reply with false statements, and attempts to rewrite what I wrote. You might want to remember Romans 3 where it says that your god hates the lies and liars who think they are doing good by telling lies for it. Jesus may love me, but I think he’d be more than a bit disappointed in you.
It’s terribly cute to see you whine about something being boring and claim that I am whining somewhere but being unable to demonstrate that. That appears to be all you have, attempts at personal attacks. Alas, those false claims fail again. You want to claim it is boring since you don’t like how it shows that you are completely wrong about your claims. Alas, ignoring things doesn’t make them go away.
I’ll have to take into account your limited reading comprehension when I write. The same science that allows these things like smart phones, etc to exist supports the existence of biological evolution. The chemistry, the physics, etc, that allow things like what I mentioned to exist are the same laws that govern evolutionary theory. Most Christians are terribly ignorant about basic science and have no idea on how the sciences work together and depend on the same things. You’ve demonstrated this yourself by your ignorance of what evolutionary theory is and your attempts to attack something that you can’t even define correctly. The sciences that support GPS, are the same ones that support the BBT.
You try to make the claim about “fine-tuning”. However, you ignore the fact that the earth and the universe are not “fine-tuned” for human life. We are fine-tuned for it, fitting laws of the universe quite well. However, the universe, and even the earth is not *for* us, since we cannot live on 80% of the earth (at least) and 99.999…% of the universe. That’s quite a lot of wasted effort by this god if it thought it was making the universe for just his chosen few humans. Again, we see you have nothing but personal attacks, and nothing to support your claims. It’s also fun to see you insist that I shouldn’t explain something to you that would show you that your nonsense is again, wrong. Willful ignorance seems to be required for certain types of Christians.
It’s great to see you try to edit out the points I’ve made, in order so you can try to pretend that they don’t exist. How dishonest of you, but I have come to expect dishonesty when it come to some Christians. Do you realize that this tactic doesn’t reflect well on a religion that claims truth to be so important? Unfortunately for you, I did support my points, and you try lie again. But nice strawman you’ve invented, since you were too cowardly to honestly take on my points. And hilarious that it is you accuse me of being childish but are the one who is using the classic childhood nonsense rather than addressing my points like an adult.
Unfortunately for you, your creation myth is no different from others, and you can’t show it to be otherwise, only having again personal attacks. Why is your creation myth different, since you seem to think it is so? You see, I don’t think you can answer that simple question and must resort to trying to distract from it. You can’t support creationist claims either. Ah, but we have more personal attacks and more strawmen since you can’t address the actual points I’ve made.
If you are the best your god has, that’s a rather pitiable god. It’s also quite funny when you try to claim that making the claim that public schools are failing (they aren’t) and somehow drugs are involved (they aren’t), isn’t a lie that you’ve invented. Yes, you said “I suspect” which is what liars say when they want to cast aspersions that aren’t true. You think it gives you the benefit of the doubt so you might claim how innocent you are; it doesn’t. Claims of humor are again something that someone who doesn’t want responsibility of what he said to be applied to him; it’s the technique of a bully and coward e.g. “Aw, it was just a joke…”
There is no more need to point out your failings, since the rest of your post is your strawman that you’ve invented since you can’t rebut my points. I didn’t write what you did and you have decided to try to pretend I did, a lie.
One can just look at my post and know what was really said, rather than your attempts to rewrite what I said. It’s great that you chose to do this, since it demonstrates without question that you need to lie to support your belief. Thanks for being one more Christian who demonstrates that being Christian doesn’t make a person decent, humane and honest. I really couldn’t ask for more.
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ErmaGERSH Clubby, SO BORING.
I hope for your sake you type fast, because this took longer to read than it would take to seal coat my driveway. Or I assume it would because, 1. I’ve never personally seal coated my driveway, and 2. I didn’t read all the way to the end.
I couldn’t.
It seems you are Angry that I edited out the dull parts eh? Fine. I’l leave this one in tact.
But let me reply by merely summarizing your points with a little copy and paste action so you can experience the dull parts OVER AND OVER like, apparently, you feel I should:
“I realized that this was complete nonsense”
“And great fun that you chose to end that way when fill in the rest of your reply with false statements”
“You might want to remember Romans 3 where it says that your god hates the lies and liars who think they are doing good by telling lies for it.”
“I’ll have to take into account your limited reading comprehension when I write.”
“Most Christians are terribly ignorant about basic science..”
“You’ve demonstrated this yourself by your ignorance..”
“Willful ignorance seems to be required for certain types of Christians.”
“How dishonest of you, but I have come to expect dishonesty when it come to some Christians.”
“..you try lie again.”
“Ah, but we have more personal attacks and more strawmen since you can’t address the actual points I’ve made.”
“Yes, you said “I suspect” which is what liars say when they want to cast aspersions that aren’t true.”
” it’s the technique of a bully and coward..”
“you have decided to try to pretend I did, a lie.”
“you need to lie to support your belief.”
So, in summary you’ve said, “I hate you, you’re a lair, I hate you, you’re a lair, I hate you, you’re a lair, I hate you, you’re a lair, I hate you, you’re a lair, and in closing, I hate you, you’re a lair.”
SO…BORING.
What makes me sad is that you think you’ve made any logical points to be responded to.
Stop making me sad clubby.
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I vacated Clubenstein’s blog quite awhile ago. As you have perceived, she responds to earnest dialogue with “you’re a liar”. That’s it.
It is dreadfully dull unless you turn it into a drinking game. Every time she accuses you of lying, you do a shot. Every time she claims to be “amused”, you chug a beer. You’ll be too drunk to type by the time you finish reading her first paragraph. She won’t notice though.
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Ermagersh JB! This made me laugh out loud!
But as a drinking game, I’d be wary of alcohol poisoning. One of these posts could be fatal.
thanks for your comments, as always!
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